so why do my fire safe cigarettes taste bad………………..??

Scroll through this blog and you will find plenty of entries from smokers complaining about the bad taste and ill effects now their favorite brand has been converted to be fire safe compliant (FSC.)

Why is this……?

Mostly it’s because the fundamental burn characteristics of your favorite smokes have been changed by the addition of FSC or LIP paper. It’s not because something bad has been added. FSC or LIP paper has bands printed on it making the paper’s porosity lower. The lower porosity bands (or zones) make the cigarettte burn slower and if it’s not puffed – it can go out.

Making the cigarette burn slower alters the taste in some cases quite significantly.

Your favorite smokes taste worse because most States and all of Canada now require FSC cigarettes.

70 comments ↓

#1 Sash on 10.27.13 at 10:04 PM

Gotta quit now!

#2 Sash on 10.27.13 at 10:05 PM

http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/303-fire-safe-cigarettes-and-the-genocide-against-smokers.html

#3 TobaccoToxDoc on 11.02.13 at 11:22 PM

FSC paper with alginate bands. See http://www.swmintl.com/products/lip-paper.aspx

Also see http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17590321 and http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17306918

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#5 Aha! on 09.28.14 at 2:19 PM

A couple of years ago, I started getting my cigs at discount places. Slowly, I started realizing that the Marlboro Ultra Lights were tasting stale. I assumed it was probably because the cigarettes were old. I started hopping around, buying them at more high volume stores and the horrible taste is still there. I thought I was going crazy. The odd thing is, I recently went to Fla on vacation, both packs I bought there tasted GREAT. Once I got back to TN, guess what?? The terrible taste is back. I am going to have to either quit, or try e-cigs.

#6 Vapor Vixen on 09.28.14 at 11:08 PM

Aha! – Its the paper.

#7 Matt E on 11.13.14 at 2:27 AM

FSC is government bureaucracy at its finest. They put a toxic substance in cigarettes for your health and saftey. I think I’m going to just start sniffing paint and call it a safe day. No fires here.

#8 Matt E on 11.13.14 at 2:33 AM

maybe they’ll start putting in in our turkeys next, you wouldn’t want a fire for thanksgiving, nevermind the cancer you just got, no fires. I didn’t realize the ratio of people dying in fires was so high. Insert sarcasm here. I think people should sue the government for their health problems related to this crap, so should the tobacco companies

#9 Aj on 11.13.14 at 11:30 PM

Damn bastards, found an old pack of smokes in a briefcase and its so much different from the crap they’re selling these days.

I guess it’s true everything Barry Obongo Soetoro touches turns to shit.

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#11 lara on 07.08.15 at 3:36 PM

This makes me so mad. Now I know where this chemical taste is coming from!

#12 lara on 07.08.15 at 3:38 PM

My throat never felt worse. The taste on my tongue is nasty. I noticed the change in my American Spirit cigarettes months back. I had episodes of my throat closing up after I smoked and would lay in bed. I guess it’s time to give up the habit or roll my own cigarettes, which seems way too consuming. I think it’s time to quit. Thank you for all the information you guys provided.

#13 Kev on 07.12.15 at 6:06 PM

lara – there are rolling machines which speed up the process of rolling your own

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#17 Peter deMatteo on 12.12.15 at 11:07 AM

I have heart disease and have tried everything. just a few weeks ago, my Newport 100’s have suddenly lost all of their flavor. i’ll actually light up and not even want to take a drag. i live in new jersey. i have found that the cigarettes in both florida and new york are even more stale tasting. the only truly good pack of menthol cigarettes i’ve had in the past year i brought in haiti. they were the best i’ve ever had. i am also constantly short of breath and hyperventilating. what brands don’t have this chemical in them besides American Spirit? I’m gonna go nuts. It’s Christmas. Please, help me, guys!

#18 The Magi on 12.22.15 at 11:18 AM

@Peter deMatteo

I never comment on the Internet, but since as you say, it is Christmas – I will offer some advice.
Firstly, as you have now noticed, the cigarettes that are sold in the USA are as good as poison. It has been this way for roughly 5 years now. Many people who smoke regular cigarettes have noticed the (glaringly obvious) change. The alterations are masked somewhat for those who smoke mentholated brands such as Newport. What is actually going on behind the scenes at the big companies is convoluted, but believe me there is an endgame at play here. Anyone wishing to arrive at an understanding of these nefarious product changes would be advised to abide by the old adage and “follow the money”.

Etiology of the problem is a topic for another day.
I will share with you the only solutions I am aware of, in rough order of increasing effort:

1. Nat Sherman Cigarettes. Excellent cigarettes made of pure tobacco. The side of the pack is labeled “FSC” but you may disregard this. The owner of that company has my respect 😉 if you catch my meaning. They are more expensive but easily worth it, for health reasons alone.
Try the Mint ones.

2. RYO/MYO. Acquire suitable tobacco, filter tubes (regular or mentholated), and an injector, such as the (first gen) “Top-O-Matic”. I will note that the best quality filter tubes come from Germany. The paper/filter make a world of difference with respects to the taste of a MYO cigarette. It is possible to find a RYO tobacco out there for sale on the Internet which is of high quality. If your main objective is reducing costs, then pipe tobacco is usuable, though of low-medium quality. You will find that most tobacco in the USA is labeled “pipe tobacco” and not cigarette tobacco. This is because of the sin tax – which our useless Congress applied to cigarette tobacco several years ago in order to achieve parity with prepackaged cigarettes. The tobacco manufacturers just changed to a larger cut size, altered the package labels to say “Pipe Tobacco”, and applied some propylene glycol and called it a day. This stuff is known as “Dual Use Tobacco”. On the whole, quality suffered as a result. The best quality tobacco you will have to process and blend yourself from the raw leaf, but I can emphasize that it is well worth it. Especially if you are the “project” type or half-crazy 😉

3. Since you are in NJ, I will mention that many bodegas and neighborhood grocers in the ethnic areas of NYC sell Chinese-imported cigarettes “under the counter”; which are of good quality and free of the usual chemical-laden misery.

– Order from overseas: I have tried them from nearly every country on the planet. Avoid those from Canada, UK, the rest of the EU for that matter, as well as Australia.
On the other hand, the cigarettes manufactured in both the Philippines and/or Indonesia are doubtless the finest quality in the world. I’m told by those in the know that you may order individual packs to sample (made in Jakarta) from ciggiesworld.com

I personally consider the proprietor of
clovecigarettesonline.com to be a trusted friend.
He is
This tip right here is worth its weight in gold 🙂

Be well my friend, and have a Merry Christmas
–M

#19 ChrisA on 01.14.16 at 10:54 AM

I have smoked Marlboro cigarettes most of my adult life. I am 60 yrs old.
I do not believe that the new “fire safe cigarettes” don’t have something added other than the “double band” papers. Yes I called.
The first pack I had tasted like they put baking soda in the tobacco. They were so disgusting they almost made me quit. It was so bad it caused me to vomit. I actually did quit for a few days.
My house looks like someone has been smoking in it for over 40 years after only a year. I have never had to wash my walls so often.
Putting that aside, the past couple of months I have thrown away more packs cigarettes than you can imagine.
Today is January 14, 2016. Over the last week the cigarettes have been so horrible I have thrown away more than a carton.
Before I quit again, yes I am going to do it again.
I would like the Truth about what the hell they are putting in the tobacco.
This has got to be more than just the “double paper bands”. The cigarettes go out if you leave them in the ashtray so it isn’t as if the are burning longer.
I might believe that it has something to do with some kind of chemical in the paper.
Either way someone that Knows and has the guts to tell the Truth, Please, tell me / us…

#20 Peter deMatteo on 11.04.16 at 10:40 AM

The latest is that all of this could in addition be caused by some sinus or ear, nose & throat problem. now, even the first one in the morning has no taste whatsoever. however, Haitian cigarettes are still normal. du Maurier cigs. in Canada are even more horrible tasting than are Newports.

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