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		<title>By: kathy sayles</title>
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		<dc:creator>kathy sayles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 04:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would like cancel your e- cig .  01/10/10      i have call many times. thanks please email me to comm.</description>
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		<title>By: NotSurprised</title>
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		<dc:creator>NotSurprised</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole issue is a great example of how we as Americans are losing our freedom. The government wants to control and tax everything we use. They use the media and big pharmacy companies and big tobbaco companies to shove pills and booze and cigarettes in our face. So they can profit and we die. They dont want us to have choice of something they cant properly regulate. Hello. Marijuana ring a bell? Can u even believe it? I havnt yet tried an e-cigarette but i do smoke cigarettes and i hate it. How can the vapor of an e-cigarette possibly be worse than a real cigarette. I want to see an American made e-cigarette. I want to see studies done. I dont want to see u bashing a product that looks like it could bring hope to millions. The government needs to stop helping themselves and start helping the American people that put food on their table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole issue is a great example of how we as Americans are losing our freedom. The government wants to control and tax everything we use. They use the media and big pharmacy companies and big tobbaco companies to shove pills and booze and cigarettes in our face. So they can profit and we die. They dont want us to have choice of something they cant properly regulate. Hello. Marijuana ring a bell? Can u even believe it? I havnt yet tried an e-cigarette but i do smoke cigarettes and i hate it. How can the vapor of an e-cigarette possibly be worse than a real cigarette. I want to see an American made e-cigarette. I want to see studies done. I dont want to see u bashing a product that looks like it could bring hope to millions. The government needs to stop helping themselves and start helping the American people that put food on their table.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All health issues aside, the reason e-cigs will not be accepted is due to the human desire to ban other people&#039;s &quot;bad&quot; habits. When nicotine in all forms is outlawed, we&#039;ll see the crackdown on obesity elevate. Eventually, we&#039;ll work on making sure that no genetically inferior babies are born. After all, less than superior humans are a cost to all of society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All health issues aside, the reason e-cigs will not be accepted is due to the human desire to ban other people&#8217;s &#8220;bad&#8221; habits. When nicotine in all forms is outlawed, we&#8217;ll see the crackdown on obesity elevate. Eventually, we&#8217;ll work on making sure that no genetically inferior babies are born. After all, less than superior humans are a cost to all of society.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Godshall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Godshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately for public health, the FDA, CTFK, ACS, AHA, ALA and subsequently US Congress rejected my repeated urgings to amend to the recently enacted FDA tobacco legislation to define e-cigarettes as  new category of tobacco product, and to regulate them accordingly.  

Had that occurred, it would be illegal to market e-cigarettes to minors, and manufacturing standards and product testing for e-cigarettes would be forthcoming.

The FDA can still save its own face and save millions of lives by proposing regulations to define e-cigarettes as tobacco products.  This also could be a negotiated outcome of the lawsuit filed by Smoking Everywhere against the FDA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately for public health, the FDA, CTFK, ACS, AHA, ALA and subsequently US Congress rejected my repeated urgings to amend to the recently enacted FDA tobacco legislation to define e-cigarettes as  new category of tobacco product, and to regulate them accordingly.  </p>
<p>Had that occurred, it would be illegal to market e-cigarettes to minors, and manufacturing standards and product testing for e-cigarettes would be forthcoming.</p>
<p>The FDA can still save its own face and save millions of lives by proposing regulations to define e-cigarettes as tobacco products.  This also could be a negotiated outcome of the lawsuit filed by Smoking Everywhere against the FDA.</p>
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		<title>By: TobaccoToxDoc</title>
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		<dc:creator>TobaccoToxDoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is unfortunate that those on the business side of e-cigs have failed to retain comptent toxicological consultants to help them out of the current situation.  A reasonable expenditure on their part at this time could help them save their products from being banned entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unfortunate that those on the business side of e-cigs have failed to retain comptent toxicological consultants to help them out of the current situation.  A reasonable expenditure on their part at this time could help them save their products from being banned entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find all of these comments linking the FDA  to &quot;big tobacco&quot; and &quot;big pharm&quot; to sound like wacky conspiracy rants. I am a supporter of the idea of e-cigs. I think an alternative to tobacco that provides the feel of a traditional cigarette, through design and vapor, while helping addicted individuals satisfy nicotine cravings is a wonderful idea. But, I also think such products need to be tested to make sure they are reasonably safe alternatives to clearly dangerous traditional cigarettes.

What good would a product be if it replaced one set of dangers with new ones? How do we, as consumers, know, for sure, that inhaling the propylene glycol that produces the vapor intended to simulate the look and feel of cigarette smoke is indeed as safe as the e-cig industry would have us believe? And why on earth did half of the 19 FDA tested e-cigs contain nitrosamine, which is a cancer-causing chemical found in antifreeze?

The FDA is a government agency, and as such is subject to the kind of bureaucratic thinking that all government agencies tend to follow. Thus, I would agree that the FDA is not handling their concerns over e-cigarettes as efficiently as they should be. And I suppose there is some level of lobbying taking place by those who stand to lose money over the sale of e-cigs (as well as those staunch anti-smoking bigots who feel that any activity tied to smoking should be prohibited regardless of actual public health issues.)

But I also think the FDA ultimately acts in the best interests of public safety. We all remember the rash of dangerous toys and other products that flowed into the US from China last year. If most e-cigs come from China, who is to say that they are not just as dangerous? Have we not learned our lesson about the poor Chinese government regulations regarding the manufacture and sale of items containing potentially dangerous chemicals and substances?

E-cigs must be tested and regulated by the FDA. They must pass the same kind of rigorous testing that all drugs, foods, ingested chemicals, etc. must pass in order to be deemed safe for human consumption. However, that being said, the FDA needs to take the same staunch stance against traditional cigarettes. If the FDA feels so strongly that a product with no obvious heath risks needs to be banned until further testing can be completed, certainly they should ban real cigarettes, which have been tested for decades and proven, over and over, to be deadly.

So I guess what I am saying here is that the FDA is right to question the safety of e-cigs, but in pushing for their ban, they are revealing not so much a conspiracy to keep &quot;big tobacco&quot; and &quot;big pharm&quot; rolling in dough from the sale of cigarettes, Chantix, and nicotine replacement products, but rather their deep hypocrisy in failing to protect the public against recognized dangers from already approved products.

Chantix is toxic. Cigarettes cause cancer and heart disease. Nicotine is an addictive drug. All of these items are very, very bad for people, yet they are either approved by the FDA (i.e., Chantix) or allowed to be sold without FDA approval (i.e. cigarettes.) So why does the FDA feel the need to ban e-cigs now? Why not allow them to remain on the market until adequate testing is completed and a full, detailed analysis of the real dangers, or lack thereof, of e-cigs is released?

I hope e-cigs remain available as a smoking alternative. I want to try e-cigs myself. I believe that using e-cigs in public places where traditional smoking is prohibited should be allowed. I believe adults have the right to ingest nicotine if the choose to. I believe that traditional cigarettes should be banned by the FDA as dangerous to the public safety. And if conclusive evidence can be found to prove that e-cigs are, indeed, dangerous, I believe they should be banned as well.

But for now, with no real evidence to condemn e-cigs, I believe they should be sold freely and without regulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find all of these comments linking the FDA  to &#8220;big tobacco&#8221; and &#8220;big pharm&#8221; to sound like wacky conspiracy rants. I am a supporter of the idea of e-cigs. I think an alternative to tobacco that provides the feel of a traditional cigarette, through design and vapor, while helping addicted individuals satisfy nicotine cravings is a wonderful idea. But, I also think such products need to be tested to make sure they are reasonably safe alternatives to clearly dangerous traditional cigarettes.</p>
<p>What good would a product be if it replaced one set of dangers with new ones? How do we, as consumers, know, for sure, that inhaling the propylene glycol that produces the vapor intended to simulate the look and feel of cigarette smoke is indeed as safe as the e-cig industry would have us believe? And why on earth did half of the 19 FDA tested e-cigs contain nitrosamine, which is a cancer-causing chemical found in antifreeze?</p>
<p>The FDA is a government agency, and as such is subject to the kind of bureaucratic thinking that all government agencies tend to follow. Thus, I would agree that the FDA is not handling their concerns over e-cigarettes as efficiently as they should be. And I suppose there is some level of lobbying taking place by those who stand to lose money over the sale of e-cigs (as well as those staunch anti-smoking bigots who feel that any activity tied to smoking should be prohibited regardless of actual public health issues.)</p>
<p>But I also think the FDA ultimately acts in the best interests of public safety. We all remember the rash of dangerous toys and other products that flowed into the US from China last year. If most e-cigs come from China, who is to say that they are not just as dangerous? Have we not learned our lesson about the poor Chinese government regulations regarding the manufacture and sale of items containing potentially dangerous chemicals and substances?</p>
<p>E-cigs must be tested and regulated by the FDA. They must pass the same kind of rigorous testing that all drugs, foods, ingested chemicals, etc. must pass in order to be deemed safe for human consumption. However, that being said, the FDA needs to take the same staunch stance against traditional cigarettes. If the FDA feels so strongly that a product with no obvious heath risks needs to be banned until further testing can be completed, certainly they should ban real cigarettes, which have been tested for decades and proven, over and over, to be deadly.</p>
<p>So I guess what I am saying here is that the FDA is right to question the safety of e-cigs, but in pushing for their ban, they are revealing not so much a conspiracy to keep &#8220;big tobacco&#8221; and &#8220;big pharm&#8221; rolling in dough from the sale of cigarettes, Chantix, and nicotine replacement products, but rather their deep hypocrisy in failing to protect the public against recognized dangers from already approved products.</p>
<p>Chantix is toxic. Cigarettes cause cancer and heart disease. Nicotine is an addictive drug. All of these items are very, very bad for people, yet they are either approved by the FDA (i.e., Chantix) or allowed to be sold without FDA approval (i.e. cigarettes.) So why does the FDA feel the need to ban e-cigs now? Why not allow them to remain on the market until adequate testing is completed and a full, detailed analysis of the real dangers, or lack thereof, of e-cigs is released?</p>
<p>I hope e-cigs remain available as a smoking alternative. I want to try e-cigs myself. I believe that using e-cigs in public places where traditional smoking is prohibited should be allowed. I believe adults have the right to ingest nicotine if the choose to. I believe that traditional cigarettes should be banned by the FDA as dangerous to the public safety. And if conclusive evidence can be found to prove that e-cigs are, indeed, dangerous, I believe they should be banned as well.</p>
<p>But for now, with no real evidence to condemn e-cigs, I believe they should be sold freely and without regulation.</p>
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		<title>By: TAZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TAZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found this of interest!

Commenting on an article in Suburban Journals of Greater St. Louis, which quoted the Food and Drug Administration spokeswoman Siobhan DeLancey saying that the agency does not know if smoking e-cigarettes is &quot;any better&quot; than smoking regular cigarettes, Prof. Michael Siegel of Boston University School of Public Health said this means the FDA also does not know if cigarette smoking is any more dangerous than using e-cigarettes, and &quot;[w]hen the FDA says cigarette smoking may be no more hazardous than the use of a device that essentially delivers just nicotine and propylene glycol, you know we have serious problems with tobacco control in this country.&quot; (tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com 10/01)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found this of interest!</p>
<p>Commenting on an article in Suburban Journals of Greater St. Louis, which quoted the Food and Drug Administration spokeswoman Siobhan DeLancey saying that the agency does not know if smoking e-cigarettes is &#8220;any better&#8221; than smoking regular cigarettes, Prof. Michael Siegel of Boston University School of Public Health said this means the FDA also does not know if cigarette smoking is any more dangerous than using e-cigarettes, and &#8220;[w]hen the FDA says cigarette smoking may be no more hazardous than the use of a device that essentially delivers just nicotine and propylene glycol, you know we have serious problems with tobacco control in this country.&#8221; (tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com 10/01)</p>
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		<title>By: Desert Dude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desert Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pam
Your so on target! The FDA is just a pawn of the Anti-Tobacco movement! We need to band together and stop the nonsense! 
DD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pam<br />
Your so on target! The FDA is just a pawn of the Anti-Tobacco movement! We need to band together and stop the nonsense!<br />
DD</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would the FDA approve a nicotine inhaler and not the ecigarette? Cause the nicotine is absorbed in the mouth? You can read about that here. http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/06/us/fda-approves-inhaler-as-stop-smoking-aid.html?sec=health&amp;spon=
Seems like the study should be done by asking people that use the ecig how they feel. That is the way it usually works thought...right?? So far I haven&#039;t read about anyone dying from the ecig.
 I&#039;m the only one that can tell a doctor how I feel and if something is working for me or if I&#039;m experiencing any kind of side effects.. They do that to &quot;approved&quot; medicine&#039;s all the time and they don&#039;t know all the side effects until someone is using the drug. I am constantly seeing lawyers on TV trying to get people to call them if they have suffered severe side effects or even death of a loved one from these &quot;approved&quot; drugs.  Since I&#039;ve been using the ecig. I feel better than I have in yrs. and don&#039;t cough all the time like I had been. I also haven&#039;t smoked a tobacco cigarette in 8 days and only started using the ecig 2 weeks ago. I can actually smell again.  Im the experiment just like anyone else that has tried the ecig. Want to know the side effects? Ask the people that use the ecig. They are the tested. 
Im also seeing a new product called Chantix being advertised that has been approved by the FDA that has some bad side effects &quot;Suicidal Thoughts&quot; WOW!! I also read that about 78 people have killed themselves taking this new FDA &quot;approved&quot; product. If the Tobacco cigarettes don&#039;t kill us ..looks like the FDA will find a way to help us do it ourselves using there &quot;approved &quot; methods.  I remember heard about a Dr. that was helping people commit suicide a few yrs. ago..What was his name ...Kevorkian ???..or maybe its spelled FDA ? Just a thought.  

Seems like it should be illegal to approve anything that causes anyone to experience those kinds of side effects. Oh but wait...Maybe they wont know that unless people try them out. I&#039;ll keep trying out my new ecig. Hope I don&#039;t get suicidal thoughts. 

Pardon the sarcasm...couldn&#039;t resist.

Happy Vaping !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would the FDA approve a nicotine inhaler and not the ecigarette? Cause the nicotine is absorbed in the mouth? You can read about that here. <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/06/us/fda-approves-inhaler-as-stop-smoking-aid.html?sec=health&amp;spon=" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/06/us/fda-approves-inhaler-as-stop-smoking-aid.html?sec=health&amp;spon=</a><br />
Seems like the study should be done by asking people that use the ecig how they feel. That is the way it usually works thought&#8230;right?? So far I haven&#8217;t read about anyone dying from the ecig.<br />
 I&#8217;m the only one that can tell a doctor how I feel and if something is working for me or if I&#8217;m experiencing any kind of side effects.. They do that to &#8220;approved&#8221; medicine&#8217;s all the time and they don&#8217;t know all the side effects until someone is using the drug. I am constantly seeing lawyers on TV trying to get people to call them if they have suffered severe side effects or even death of a loved one from these &#8220;approved&#8221; drugs.  Since I&#8217;ve been using the ecig. I feel better than I have in yrs. and don&#8217;t cough all the time like I had been. I also haven&#8217;t smoked a tobacco cigarette in 8 days and only started using the ecig 2 weeks ago. I can actually smell again.  Im the experiment just like anyone else that has tried the ecig. Want to know the side effects? Ask the people that use the ecig. They are the tested.<br />
Im also seeing a new product called Chantix being advertised that has been approved by the FDA that has some bad side effects &#8220;Suicidal Thoughts&#8221; WOW!! I also read that about 78 people have killed themselves taking this new FDA &#8220;approved&#8221; product. If the Tobacco cigarettes don&#8217;t kill us ..looks like the FDA will find a way to help us do it ourselves using there &#8220;approved &#8221; methods.  I remember heard about a Dr. that was helping people commit suicide a few yrs. ago..What was his name &#8230;Kevorkian ???..or maybe its spelled FDA ? Just a thought.  </p>
<p>Seems like it should be illegal to approve anything that causes anyone to experience those kinds of side effects. Oh but wait&#8230;Maybe they wont know that unless people try them out. I&#8217;ll keep trying out my new ecig. Hope I don&#8217;t get suicidal thoughts. </p>
<p>Pardon the sarcasm&#8230;couldn&#8217;t resist.</p>
<p>Happy Vaping !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mistman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mistman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I saw a great new product the other day! Imagine an inhaler that used aroma therapy to soothe the savage smokers urges! Pretty neat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I saw a great new product the other day! Imagine an inhaler that used aroma therapy to soothe the savage smokers urges! Pretty neat!</p>
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