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		<title>By: TAZ</title>
		<link>http://www.tobaccotoday.info/2008/05/22/all-aboard-for-fda/comment-page-1/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>TAZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 23:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the FDA?

United States/Japan: Yokota Air Base Pharmacy Pulls Chantix	
Medical officials at the US Air Force&#039;s Yokota Air Base in Japan decided to remove Chantix from the base pharmacy, after a May report from the Institute for Safe Medication Practices found an array of health and safety concerns including falls, heart rhythm disturbances, heart attacks, seizures, diabetes and psychiatric disturbances associated with the smoking cessation drug. Yokota has suspended all refills of Chantix, but 374th Medical Support Squadron pharmacy element chief Major Tam Dinh said a patient with approval from his doctor can continue the medication and special order the drug. Chantix, however, is still available in many military smoking-cessation programs in the region, although air crew members can no longer take the drug as per the US Department of Defense&#039;s (DOD) recommendation that &quot;varenicline should not be used by personnel operating aircraft (including aircrew and air traffic controllers) and missile crew members.&quot; In South Korea, where Chantix is available at military treatment facilities, Major Remington L. Nevin said individual healthcare providers are free to exercise their judgment in determining whether their patients should be treated with Chantix. He noted that the DOD recommendation currently does not prohibit the use of Chantix or mandate a formal screening process before prescribing the medication. The medical community at US naval hospitals Yokosuka and Okinawa in Japan are taking a similar approach, leaving the decision about Chantix to the patient and the physician (Stars &amp; Stripes 8/12).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the FDA?</p>
<p>United States/Japan: Yokota Air Base Pharmacy Pulls Chantix<br />
Medical officials at the US Air Force&#8217;s Yokota Air Base in Japan decided to remove Chantix from the base pharmacy, after a May report from the Institute for Safe Medication Practices found an array of health and safety concerns including falls, heart rhythm disturbances, heart attacks, seizures, diabetes and psychiatric disturbances associated with the smoking cessation drug. Yokota has suspended all refills of Chantix, but 374th Medical Support Squadron pharmacy element chief Major Tam Dinh said a patient with approval from his doctor can continue the medication and special order the drug. Chantix, however, is still available in many military smoking-cessation programs in the region, although air crew members can no longer take the drug as per the US Department of Defense&#8217;s (DOD) recommendation that &#8220;varenicline should not be used by personnel operating aircraft (including aircrew and air traffic controllers) and missile crew members.&#8221; In South Korea, where Chantix is available at military treatment facilities, Major Remington L. Nevin said individual healthcare providers are free to exercise their judgment in determining whether their patients should be treated with Chantix. He noted that the DOD recommendation currently does not prohibit the use of Chantix or mandate a formal screening process before prescribing the medication. The medical community at US naval hospitals Yokosuka and Okinawa in Japan are taking a similar approach, leaving the decision about Chantix to the patient and the physician (Stars &amp; Stripes 8/12).</p>
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		<title>By: DEERHUNTER</title>
		<link>http://www.tobaccotoday.info/2008/05/22/all-aboard-for-fda/comment-page-1/#comment-517</link>
		<dc:creator>DEERHUNTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a shame that we live in a country which allows for left wing extremists to do as they please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame that we live in a country which allows for left wing extremists to do as they please.</p>
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		<title>By: CIG GUY</title>
		<link>http://www.tobaccotoday.info/2008/05/22/all-aboard-for-fda/comment-page-1/#comment-513</link>
		<dc:creator>CIG GUY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just was looking at the NACS brochure and wow I&#039;m absolutely dumbfounded. It&#039;s all true - NO TOBACCO Session - If I need to be corrected I thought tobacco was about 38 % of a c-store sales??? Is this just not amazing how the management of NACS has just decided to diss the tobacco industry. Folks need to look at how many of the tobacco companies are on the Hunters Club paying big bucks. I really do think someone needs to organize a good old sit down in the old arena protesting NACS disregard for the tobacco industry. Do they even understand that there is still a future for the tobacco industry!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just was looking at the NACS brochure and wow I&#8217;m absolutely dumbfounded. It&#8217;s all true &#8211; NO TOBACCO Session &#8211; If I need to be corrected I thought tobacco was about 38 % of a c-store sales??? Is this just not amazing how the management of NACS has just decided to diss the tobacco industry. Folks need to look at how many of the tobacco companies are on the Hunters Club paying big bucks. I really do think someone needs to organize a good old sit down in the old arena protesting NACS disregard for the tobacco industry. Do they even understand that there is still a future for the tobacco industry!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: TAZ</title>
		<link>http://www.tobaccotoday.info/2008/05/22/all-aboard-for-fda/comment-page-1/#comment-511</link>
		<dc:creator>TAZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a section of an article that can be found on the blogroll - The Rest of the Story by Michael Siegel. It points out the most damaging portion of the legislation.

 The Rest of the Story


These are insightful and important observations about the likely impact of the proposed FDA tobacco legislation.


The key section of the bill is section 911, which sets out the criteria that need to be met before a reduced risk product can be introduced into the marketplace. According to this section:


&quot;the Secretary shall approve an application for a modified risk tobacco product filed under this section only if the Secretary determines that the applicant has demonstrated that such product, as it is actually used by consumers, will--`(A) significantly reduce harm and the risk of tobacco-related disease to individual tobacco users; and `(B) benefit the health of the population as a whole taking into account both users of tobacco products and persons who do not currently use tobacco products.


Section 911(g)(1)(A), the (A) clause above places an insurmountable obstacle in the path of approval of modified risk products, at least for a 10-20 year period (which is enough to remove any incentive for companies to pursue such products). In order to demonstrate that the product, as actually used by consumers, will significantly reduce the risk of tobacco-related disease to individual users, large-scale, long-term epidemiologic studies are necessary. Even ignoring the requirement under 911(g)(1)(B), the (B) clause above (which itself appears to introduce an insurmountable obstacle), the bill as currently written precludes any harm reduction approach to tobacco control both by making it impossible for such products to meet the conditions for approval and by eliminating any incentive (especially economic) to develop such products. Thus, the bill may have the exact opposite effect that many believe it should have. It protects the existing high-risk products on the market.


Section 911 creates a literal catch-22 for reduced risk products. In order to introduce such a product into the market, you need to demonstrate that on an individual basis, it will reduce the risk of tobacco-related disease. However, in order to make such a demonstration, one would need to introduce the product into the market and follow a large sample of smokers for a long period of time – at least 10 years, if not longer. Thus, there is realistically no way to get a reduced risk product onto the market.


This legislation is likely to result in increased, not decreased deaths from tobacco products, because it will make it virtually impossible to research, develop, introduce, and market new potentially less hazardous tobacco products. It essentially freezes the market as it is and entrenches existing high-risk products into the market. It puts an end to any meaningful possibility of harm reduction as a tobacco control approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a section of an article that can be found on the blogroll &#8211; The Rest of the Story by Michael Siegel. It points out the most damaging portion of the legislation.</p>
<p> The Rest of the Story</p>
<p>These are insightful and important observations about the likely impact of the proposed FDA tobacco legislation.</p>
<p>The key section of the bill is section 911, which sets out the criteria that need to be met before a reduced risk product can be introduced into the marketplace. According to this section:</p>
<p>&#8220;the Secretary shall approve an application for a modified risk tobacco product filed under this section only if the Secretary determines that the applicant has demonstrated that such product, as it is actually used by consumers, will&#8211;`(A) significantly reduce harm and the risk of tobacco-related disease to individual tobacco users; and `(B) benefit the health of the population as a whole taking into account both users of tobacco products and persons who do not currently use tobacco products.</p>
<p>Section 911(g)(1)(A), the (A) clause above places an insurmountable obstacle in the path of approval of modified risk products, at least for a 10-20 year period (which is enough to remove any incentive for companies to pursue such products). In order to demonstrate that the product, as actually used by consumers, will significantly reduce the risk of tobacco-related disease to individual users, large-scale, long-term epidemiologic studies are necessary. Even ignoring the requirement under 911(g)(1)(B), the (B) clause above (which itself appears to introduce an insurmountable obstacle), the bill as currently written precludes any harm reduction approach to tobacco control both by making it impossible for such products to meet the conditions for approval and by eliminating any incentive (especially economic) to develop such products. Thus, the bill may have the exact opposite effect that many believe it should have. It protects the existing high-risk products on the market.</p>
<p>Section 911 creates a literal catch-22 for reduced risk products. In order to introduce such a product into the market, you need to demonstrate that on an individual basis, it will reduce the risk of tobacco-related disease. However, in order to make such a demonstration, one would need to introduce the product into the market and follow a large sample of smokers for a long period of time – at least 10 years, if not longer. Thus, there is realistically no way to get a reduced risk product onto the market.</p>
<p>This legislation is likely to result in increased, not decreased deaths from tobacco products, because it will make it virtually impossible to research, develop, introduce, and market new potentially less hazardous tobacco products. It essentially freezes the market as it is and entrenches existing high-risk products into the market. It puts an end to any meaningful possibility of harm reduction as a tobacco control approach.</p>
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		<title>By: John Rolfe</title>
		<link>http://www.tobaccotoday.info/2008/05/22/all-aboard-for-fda/comment-page-1/#comment-508</link>
		<dc:creator>John Rolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Cig Guy we seem to agree on most of this and I am certainly not one to defend mishaps elsewhere in the industry or to argue that LO is not a great play but this is not what we are talking about as OTP Kid makes plain.  You believe that Altria is 4-square in defense of the menthol sector and I am not convinced they wouldn&#039;t back down on this if they see opportunities to gain share as a result as OTP kid argues since their principal goal is to cut costs and preserve share and they have the least to lose relatively speaking by the FEDS zapping menthols and their competitors will lose more.  If history is any guide, MO will sacrifice the industry&#039;s future for its present so let&#039;s see how this plays out should any of this pass and FDA has a chance to further study this issue.  What I&#039;d like FDA to use is the same scientific standard that Waxman used to ban flavors to begin with - no standard at all, just a hunch while at the same time building huge scientific barriers to the introduction of less harmful products. What insanity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Cig Guy we seem to agree on most of this and I am certainly not one to defend mishaps elsewhere in the industry or to argue that LO is not a great play but this is not what we are talking about as OTP Kid makes plain.  You believe that Altria is 4-square in defense of the menthol sector and I am not convinced they wouldn&#8217;t back down on this if they see opportunities to gain share as a result as OTP kid argues since their principal goal is to cut costs and preserve share and they have the least to lose relatively speaking by the FEDS zapping menthols and their competitors will lose more.  If history is any guide, MO will sacrifice the industry&#8217;s future for its present so let&#8217;s see how this plays out should any of this pass and FDA has a chance to further study this issue.  What I&#8217;d like FDA to use is the same scientific standard that Waxman used to ban flavors to begin with &#8211; no standard at all, just a hunch while at the same time building huge scientific barriers to the introduction of less harmful products. What insanity!</p>
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		<title>By: OTP Kid</title>
		<link>http://www.tobaccotoday.info/2008/05/22/all-aboard-for-fda/comment-page-1/#comment-504</link>
		<dc:creator>OTP Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another perspective for all to consider.  In spite of Altria&#039;s share or growth or profitability, or all of us speculating on those things, I offer up one fact.  Let&#039;s assume for a minute that menthol is banned and it goes away.  Some smokers will stop smoking; however, the balance of those menthol smokers need to find another brand/product.  Which company has the best chance to pick up the most smokers?  I would argue that the company with the largest share would have the best chance to pick up the most smokers.  We can assume the sales/share fall proportionately to existing consumer preferences.  I wonder who that might be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another perspective for all to consider.  In spite of Altria&#8217;s share or growth or profitability, or all of us speculating on those things, I offer up one fact.  Let&#8217;s assume for a minute that menthol is banned and it goes away.  Some smokers will stop smoking; however, the balance of those menthol smokers need to find another brand/product.  Which company has the best chance to pick up the most smokers?  I would argue that the company with the largest share would have the best chance to pick up the most smokers.  We can assume the sales/share fall proportionately to existing consumer preferences.  I wonder who that might be?</p>
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		<title>By: CIG GUY</title>
		<link>http://www.tobaccotoday.info/2008/05/22/all-aboard-for-fda/comment-page-1/#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator>CIG GUY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 04:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, John Rolfe the amount of buy one get ones has greatly reduced over the past year as the promotions are typically a buy 2 deal with additional funds off. The manufacturers have decided the promo&#039;s were too costly in that they had to pay the huge excise taxes.

Also Marlboro Smooth from what I see in my locations is not moving very much. Ultra Smooth has been discontinued (in test markets) and Blend 27 is not a real mover.  

I also challenge your thought that PM has done anything to grow their share. It had everything to do with RAI&#039;s management of their business. Less emphasis in EDLP, discontinuing of buysome promotions, SAP fiasco and in case you didn&#039;t know RAI discontinued soft packings in a lot of the brand lines. PM like Lorillard grew share at the expense of RAI. Lorillard is actually positioned extremely well and will continue to out perform both PM and RAI as there management truly is profit driven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, John Rolfe the amount of buy one get ones has greatly reduced over the past year as the promotions are typically a buy 2 deal with additional funds off. The manufacturers have decided the promo&#8217;s were too costly in that they had to pay the huge excise taxes.</p>
<p>Also Marlboro Smooth from what I see in my locations is not moving very much. Ultra Smooth has been discontinued (in test markets) and Blend 27 is not a real mover.  </p>
<p>I also challenge your thought that PM has done anything to grow their share. It had everything to do with RAI&#8217;s management of their business. Less emphasis in EDLP, discontinuing of buysome promotions, SAP fiasco and in case you didn&#8217;t know RAI discontinued soft packings in a lot of the brand lines. PM like Lorillard grew share at the expense of RAI. Lorillard is actually positioned extremely well and will continue to out perform both PM and RAI as there management truly is profit driven.</p>
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		<title>By: John Rolfe</title>
		<link>http://www.tobaccotoday.info/2008/05/22/all-aboard-for-fda/comment-page-1/#comment-498</link>
		<dc:creator>John Rolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, Marlboro Menthol, largely on the back of the Marlboro Smooth launch in 2007, is the fastest growing menthol, given the buy one-get one campaigns that have accompanied Smooth, Ultra Smooth, Blend 37 and Virginia Blend, all costly efforts to enable Marlboro to reap a .5 share gain in 2007.   With an estimated 14-15  billion units in menthol segment, you are right PM does not want to see these units evaporate.  However, we all know how PM has over the years relied heavily on its defensive strategies built around the concept of hurting its competitors more than it gets hurt by the adoption of the same public policy - heck even litigation fell into this category.  As long as they can get a disproportionate gain out of it -- e.g., if menthol means more to LO and RAI than it does to MO then they just might do it.  This is my point NOT that they don&#039;t have a play in menthol.

Newport shipped 33 billion units in 2007 and took about a 33% share of the 100 billion menthol segment which itself was about 28% of the 360 billion unit overall market.  Without menthol their goose is cooked and what about RAI? As their units decline at 8% per year, they need what they have already and the Kool-
Salem combo is key for them more important to them than Menthol is to PM.

And given PM&#039;s general cost reduction strategy, why not save the enormous buy-downs / promotional cost that their menthol position is costing them? As a retailer, you sure know how much buy-one, get-one they do to move their menthols!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, Marlboro Menthol, largely on the back of the Marlboro Smooth launch in 2007, is the fastest growing menthol, given the buy one-get one campaigns that have accompanied Smooth, Ultra Smooth, Blend 37 and Virginia Blend, all costly efforts to enable Marlboro to reap a .5 share gain in 2007.   With an estimated 14-15  billion units in menthol segment, you are right PM does not want to see these units evaporate.  However, we all know how PM has over the years relied heavily on its defensive strategies built around the concept of hurting its competitors more than it gets hurt by the adoption of the same public policy &#8211; heck even litigation fell into this category.  As long as they can get a disproportionate gain out of it &#8212; e.g., if menthol means more to LO and RAI than it does to MO then they just might do it.  This is my point NOT that they don&#8217;t have a play in menthol.</p>
<p>Newport shipped 33 billion units in 2007 and took about a 33% share of the 100 billion menthol segment which itself was about 28% of the 360 billion unit overall market.  Without menthol their goose is cooked and what about RAI? As their units decline at 8% per year, they need what they have already and the Kool-<br />
Salem combo is key for them more important to them than Menthol is to PM.</p>
<p>And given PM&#8217;s general cost reduction strategy, why not save the enormous buy-downs / promotional cost that their menthol position is costing them? As a retailer, you sure know how much buy-one, get-one they do to move their menthols!</p>
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		<title>By: NWTobacco</title>
		<link>http://www.tobaccotoday.info/2008/05/22/all-aboard-for-fda/comment-page-1/#comment-497</link>
		<dc:creator>NWTobacco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 21:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The numbers actually are closer to a PM 51% share now. Plus PM actually has done pretty well with menthol as they are closing in on 5% share on Marlboro menthol. So the Marlboro Menthol brand is about half that of the leading Newport brand. At RAI the three menthols (Camel, Salem and Kool) are close to a 6% share. So I&#039;d say PM has actually done very well in the past 5 years of growing their menthol business. The growth of the menthol category over the past 5 years has been driven by PM&#039;s efforts! As a retailer I know their efforts over the past years and how they strategically have targeted Newport! All you have to do is go out to a retail location and look at the cigarette set and you will see Marlboro Menthol strategically positioned right above Newport in the large majority of retail locations. So I&#039;d say PM has an interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The numbers actually are closer to a PM 51% share now. Plus PM actually has done pretty well with menthol as they are closing in on 5% share on Marlboro menthol. So the Marlboro Menthol brand is about half that of the leading Newport brand. At RAI the three menthols (Camel, Salem and Kool) are close to a 6% share. So I&#8217;d say PM has actually done very well in the past 5 years of growing their menthol business. The growth of the menthol category over the past 5 years has been driven by PM&#8217;s efforts! As a retailer I know their efforts over the past years and how they strategically have targeted Newport! All you have to do is go out to a retail location and look at the cigarette set and you will see Marlboro Menthol strategically positioned right above Newport in the large majority of retail locations. So I&#8217;d say PM has an interest.</p>
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		<title>By: John Rolfe</title>
		<link>http://www.tobaccotoday.info/2008/05/22/all-aboard-for-fda/comment-page-1/#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>John Rolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given PM&#039;s failure to penetrate the menthol segment and be a force against Newport and Kool, in spite of the enormous buy-downs, what shocks me the most is that they have opposed the effort to prohibit menthol at all, the principal thought in the letter cited by NWTobacco.  The only answer that I can come up with here is their fear of a real black-market developing in menthol and what that would mean for Marlboro Lights/Red.

I vote for smokescreen since PM needs FDA regulation to further build out its barrier to entry to solidify its 50 share, essentially to prevent the market from springing open through health claims for a wide assortment of new products that may appeal more to consumers than old Marlboro.  So first get the barrier in place by setting the scientific standard so high that, in spite of broad support in the public health community acknowledging that smokeless is relatively less harmful than cigarettes, no one&#039;s smokeless products will ever be able to make health claims to further drive their 6-7% annual growth while PM -- not having a viable smokeless product yet -- watches the overall cigarette market decline 3-4%.  Without a viable smokeless product and fearing the spread of new products, PM&#039;s best strategy is to freeze the market and reduce cost -- get rid of all advertising and the possibility of any health claims for anything -- while they build the research and production capacity to match and exceed any of these new products if, per chance, one or more do take off without the need for health claims.  PM&#039;s history, like Microsoft&#039;s, is a history of being the best follower to new innovation who can then apply marketing skills to someone else&#039;s creation.  Now their task is to freeze the 50 share and reduce costs to drive profits while all the while getting the Corporate Social Responsiblity points along the way.  And Mr. Waxman and the self-satisfied Tobacco Control fanatics are only too willing to fall for this while more and more people die from consuming PM&#039;s more hazardous products.  At some point the Tobacco Control folks will wake up to this latest phase of what began as the &quot;lights fiasco.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given PM&#8217;s failure to penetrate the menthol segment and be a force against Newport and Kool, in spite of the enormous buy-downs, what shocks me the most is that they have opposed the effort to prohibit menthol at all, the principal thought in the letter cited by NWTobacco.  The only answer that I can come up with here is their fear of a real black-market developing in menthol and what that would mean for Marlboro Lights/Red.</p>
<p>I vote for smokescreen since PM needs FDA regulation to further build out its barrier to entry to solidify its 50 share, essentially to prevent the market from springing open through health claims for a wide assortment of new products that may appeal more to consumers than old Marlboro.  So first get the barrier in place by setting the scientific standard so high that, in spite of broad support in the public health community acknowledging that smokeless is relatively less harmful than cigarettes, no one&#8217;s smokeless products will ever be able to make health claims to further drive their 6-7% annual growth while PM &#8212; not having a viable smokeless product yet &#8212; watches the overall cigarette market decline 3-4%.  Without a viable smokeless product and fearing the spread of new products, PM&#8217;s best strategy is to freeze the market and reduce cost &#8212; get rid of all advertising and the possibility of any health claims for anything &#8212; while they build the research and production capacity to match and exceed any of these new products if, per chance, one or more do take off without the need for health claims.  PM&#8217;s history, like Microsoft&#8217;s, is a history of being the best follower to new innovation who can then apply marketing skills to someone else&#8217;s creation.  Now their task is to freeze the 50 share and reduce costs to drive profits while all the while getting the Corporate Social Responsiblity points along the way.  And Mr. Waxman and the self-satisfied Tobacco Control fanatics are only too willing to fall for this while more and more people die from consuming PM&#8217;s more hazardous products.  At some point the Tobacco Control folks will wake up to this latest phase of what began as the &#8220;lights fiasco.&#8221;</p>
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