10:1:12? – Fire safe cigarettes – the unforseen consequences

In the EU and some other cigarette markets, like Brazil and Saudi Arabia, there is a tar limit of 10mgms (1mg of nicotine and 10mgms of CO.)

Recently the EU announced it plans to introduce regulations to make fire-safe cigarettes mandatory. What are the consequences?

For a start two things tend to happen when low ignition propensity (LIP) paper as it’s called is added to a cigarette – the tar goes up and so does the CO. By how much? Well depends on the brand, but tar can go up 1mgm and CO by as much as 15%.

While it’s not too hard to readjust the tar level, bringing down the CO is not so easy.

In other markets, like Canada, this has not been a problem as there’s no tar ceiling and the increases have been ignored. In the EU because of 10:1:10, this is not possible.

Is this acceptable?

Are there other options?

Do you have a comment?

16 comments ↓

#1 Patriot on 02.21.08 at 1:19 AM

I am curious about this issue? First, isn’t there a noticeable taste difference in the cigarette? Second, isn’t there a shortage of this paper? Third, are there any controls in place to evaluate the effectiveness of this paper? Anyone have answers.

#2 Chris Crawley on 02.21.08 at 4:08 PM

There is no doubt LIP product is different from regular cigarettes. /after all they go out – so it stands to reason that the `taste` is different.
The paper is expensive compared to regular paper and is often made to order. Supplies are scarce.
There are test methods in place.

#3 Patriot on 02.22.08 at 1:58 AM

Is it true that Philip Morris is somehow conected to this product? I thought I read this in a industry journal or heard it a conference.

#4 Johnie Jay on 04.03.08 at 11:17 PM

I today saw that Liggett Vector is moving all it’s product to this type of paper. Seems like more states are moving this way so it’s probably a smart move.

#5 John Rolfe on 04.04.08 at 2:49 PM

The larger manufacturers, or those who are very small with share only in non-LIP states, either have lots of states to cover or too few, and will be the last to join the all-state move on LIP given the over 4x cost and short supplies. Liggett Vector, with some share in most if not all states, took the move since segregating inventories is a real hassle.

#6 CIG GUY on 04.11.08 at 5:00 PM

As a smoker I’m not looking forward to this move as their is definitely a difference in the smoke. Any one know why that occurs?

#7 Troubadour on 04.19.08 at 12:04 AM

Can anyone confirm that NY State is including little cigars now in the mix for LIP?

#8 Chris Crawley on 04.28.08 at 8:49 PM

Hi Troubador:
I have not heard NY State plans to include little cigars within LIP regulations.
As I understand it one of the definitions of a little cigar is the wrap must be made of tobacco (or at least partly.) You cannot produce a tobacco wrap LIP.

#9 Chris Crawley on 04.28.08 at 8:52 PM

Hi Cig Guy:
LIP paper stands for Low Ignition Propensity. What this means in practice is the burn characteristics of the cigarette have been fundamentally altered – so it goes out. One of the consequences of changing the burn characteristics is the tar number goes up and so does the carbon monoxide. No question your cigarette will be different.

#10 CIG GUY on 05.01.08 at 3:50 PM

Chris – So this product in reality with the new paper becomes more toxic?
WOW!

#11 Pissedoff on 05.21.08 at 2:04 PM

I want the non-smoking bastards to park their cars which pollute the air I breathe thousands of times more than my little cigarette.

#12 Chris Crawley on 05.21.08 at 8:19 PM

Dear Pissedoff:
Your other comments on this blog have been deleted. They were unacceptable.
You have not read or understood the acceptable rules of behaviour for this blog.
Change your attitude or do not come here.

#13 Chris Crawley on 05.21.08 at 8:24 PM

Dear Cig Guy:
Fire safe products are seen from the public health community’s perspective to be helping save lives. Unfortunately there are consequences – the CO increases – this has its own set of issues – which have been so far mostly ignored.
I’m not sure why – but you have to ask if the public health community were aware of the consequences.

#14 CIG GUY on 05.26.08 at 10:40 PM

Chris,

Asking the health community is like talking to the wall on subjects like this as they just have one goal and that is to eliminate all tobacco products. I agree they need to be more open but I get tired of all the news that just wants to end tobacco no matter if the facts are supportive or not of their cause that always gets prime time exposure.

#15 brenda on 06.21.09 at 10:55 AM

i just had asthmatic bronchitis , pretty sure that these new paper for cig. did not help it much also know a couple other people with it

#16 OTP Kid on 06.25.09 at 11:10 AM

Patriot: my understanding is that PM has one of the patents on LIP

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